marshall 1959hw vs friedman

It wasn't model specific though thus, as a result, you'll see it on old JTM45s, 1987, and 100-watt "Plexi" models. You are using an out of date browser. Depends what you're doing musically though. A very well-built amp, though. Considering the Bright Cap Mod to your SV20? In which case you look at what will work best for you. I'd pick the mark v. Just because I play so much different types of music. I will, I tried the mini runt combo, and it was kind of dark, but I think it depended from the tiny cab. Well made and well designed. When I have another HOM gathering I will have my 67 plexi up and running (right now it needs filter caps) and will have my 71 and 74 SL right next to it to compare. I've always been old fashioned- I used to get laughs and sneers in the music store in the 80s when I would grab a Les Paul, Explorer or SG off the wall and go to the used section and plug into an old Marshall or Fender while everyone else was hairspray and super strats into their ADA MP1 and ART digital rack effects. The 1959HW is a very special treat, because it is completely hand-wired using the exact same manufacturing techniques to produce Jimi Hendrix's stage amps (at that time still in Jim Marshall's first factory in Hayes). They're both designed to sound very differently. Both are great amps. But I've never played one or heard one in person. You are using an out of date browser. JavaScript is disabled. Times when an artist basically ripped off their own songand it worked, Unacceptable or overly critical? The thing about that though is that it can get old. If you want something more modern and flexible, the smallbox is a good choice. 100-watts of power for a loud, clear, articulate character. But the SS100 will have more tones and gain available plus a legit clean channel. Great roar and tons of balls. You can always take the iron to it and change stuff pretty easly. I really loved my Mesa/Boogie MKIV & MKII-C there great amps, that combo size (little heavy) was loud and great live and in the studio. They are darn good amps. TGP's most controversial amp company vs TGP's favorite. (not a joke) ricksdisconnected, Nov 20, 2021 #16. Marshall SC/SV and Friedman Combo Fastening System for LegendaryTones Mods! Marshall 1959HW Handwired Plexi vs Friedman BE 100 Deluxe - YouTube 0:00 Intro0:10 Marshall 2:13 Friedman w/ C45 Switch2:47 Marshall 3:11 Friedman w/ C45 Switch3:55 Friedman No. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Former 49ers star Reuben Foster, who has returned to pro football after a four-year absence and has 37 tackles in five games, is the league's second-highest-rated player according to Pro Football Focus. Ray Horton's Maulers defense has had its moments, as linebacker Kyahva Tezino leads the league with 77 tackles, with six of them going for losses. Popular amps that the HMV2/Lynch Mod/Mr. I will not buying any other marshall amp with such bad experience. i have a mojave peacemaker, a very optimized plexi, and my friend owned a BE100 for a few years until moving to a SS at my urging and he us super happy he did. I saw a video of him with the band in like a rehearsal garage and couldnt understand why his tone was so blah, that TONE that hes known for was gone. The louder you play, the better it sounds. We will waste no more words on the sound qualities of this amp - that would be superfluous. JTM 45 reissue model 2245, Bluesbreaker reissue combo 1962. I have a 50 watt lead amp coming with switches to dial in basically every change marshall made from 67 to 70. I run it with two power tubes pulled and halve the impedance through an old 4x12 with blackbacks. Not to take anything away from the dsl 50 ,theyre great Ive got one,again similar but differant character. If anything the last time I played one it just made me feel way better about finding my TSL for $400. The Twin Sister is close but not quite there with the KERRANG. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I fell in LOVE with those amps, mostly the BE and the DS. Recording? The Astoria Custom is great but the SM 50 blows it away and the quality right out of the box is not even close to the Friedman and it had a street price of 3400.00!!! 2 speaker outputs for connecting extension cabinets. The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. If your Hot Mod V2 does NOT have these markings, email [emailprotected] and I can upgrade your wiring for FREE (just include $8 to cover return shipping) so that your HMV2 can be compatible with a wider range of amps including the Marshall Studio Series heads. I now own a Friedman Small Box 50 combo. He is in his 10th season covering the Bucs and the NFL full-time, having spent time at the Tampa Bay Times and The Athletic. You must log in or register to reply here. And of course we also offer a reverse-wired version so that either model can also function in many of the reissue amps which the original Soldano Hot Mod could not. I owned a Splawn Quick Rod for about a month and grew to completely hate it. SC20H/SV20H heads (SEE NOTE BELOW as not all HMV2 models are compatible), SC20C/SC20C combos (compatible when purchased here with fastener kit). The viney cover is not glued properly at the corner. Are you talking 2K for a late '60s Super Lead? Some smaller amps will scratch the itch for a while, but in the end youll likely be wondering what if. What I remember is being able to turn the volume up quite high, with a decent amount of gain, and it was amazingly quiet. The high end vintage types seem too smooth to me and the high end high gainers lack top and low end due to compression. You are using an out of date browser. *2203 and 2204 amps (and related 2103, 2104 combos) made from 1976 until about early 1979 didnt use shielded wire for pin 7 of the V1 tube. Id purchase the SS100 before Id purchase a Marshall HW SLP. Output wattage: 100 watts. Simple as that. I say forget the HW due to price and get a nice used 59SLP. Marshall 1959HW Tube Guitar Amplifier Head Features: Handwired, all-tube guitar amplifier based on '60s Plexi amplifiers. Orange Amps: Many Orange models do not use a traditional cathode follower type tone stack which the mod needs in order to make a connection and add its gain stage. Ive been critical of others views on tone and choice of gear on this forum at times ( I try not to be but you know how it is sometimes) . His comment was that his Marshalls were pretty bright live and at volume. Damn JVM410h.only went and did it again! Are they just another flavor of marshall that I can get with a pedal? There something about the sound of cranked power tubes that you'll never get out of a master volume. I have used so many Marshall amps but this is truly the best in terms of tonal fidelity, Display Tube Guitar Heads from $ 1750 - $ 2250, Go to product group Electric Guitar Amp Heads, 2 Speaker outputs with 4, 8, 16 ohm impedance, 15 It wasnt until I got a good look at his amp that I realized he was using a jcm 2000 dsl 50! Even a deaf person can hear the difference. The except is clone kits. For example ,Im a fan of michael schenkers tone with the 2205 it has that cocked wah characteristic to it. The only Friedman experience I have is the SS head. Sep 18, 2008. No high, sharp mids and the sweet hair people love in JCM. I don't care for the high gain modded Marshall clones and tones- even those from Marshall itself. To pull off an upset, the Maulers will need . Thats where we came in Jack went into the finer details and tones of all three of these amps to show you what a 100 watt plexi style amp can really do. I make no apologies for what I like to hear and you can do you. For combo rectifier versions order mod with fastener system here. To pull off an upset, the Maulers will need to reverse trends that have led to their struggling record, still mathematically alive with three weeks left in the regular season. Friedman amps are like chewy Marshalls. Its a super easy amp to play and the loop and great master volume take it to another level. I still prefer the Marshall, but the Friedman is definitely in the ballpark. Channels: 2 (Split), Lead and Bass. That amp was just like an 800 with a super hot OD in front and a compressor in the loop. What, Some of the add-ons on this site are powered by. Damn JVM410h.only went and did it again! The SS does sound great though. Best amp for the money! This would be used in all situations from really quiet bedroom levels at home, to loud non-mic'd rehearsals, to small and medium sized venues. Is it worth 3000.00, IMO yes because that must be what it takes now days to get a quality amp these days. You want a darker, more compressed Boogie sound, get a Boogie. For Runt series combo amps, order mod with fastener system here. IDK why, but it's got something weird going on in the midrange, and way too much compression for my tastes. Am I missing something not owning a friedman? They are extremely saturated in comparison and much easier to play on. #10. Why would this topic lead to a ban? But the biggest difference will likely be the feel. Email [emailprotected]. All great amps. Yep. Phaez M50X. The 1959HW is a very special treat, because it is completely hand-wired using the exact same manufacturing techniques to produce Jimi Hendrix's stage amps (at that time still in Jim Marshall's first factory in Hayes). **NOTE 2: While the Runt 20 (reverse wire), JJ Jr. (reverse wire) and PT-20 (use standard wire) models are sonically compatible with the HMV2E and Lynch Mod/Mr. FWIW, they are not even close IMHO. And on the current JTM45, 1987X, and 1959HW reissues, too. Am I missing something not owning a friedman? Marshall 1959HW (with Fryette Powerstation 2) or Friedman Smallbox 50? To me, and take this how you want. lol tempting me to go on and on about marshall vs Friedman. 2205/10 and beyond are not my thing, EXCEPT for the Vintage Modern. But they do have a hint of ' blanket thrown over' about them , and are too ' smooth ' . JavaScript is disabled. If you want true plexi tones, stick with the Marshall. Greg Auman is FOX Sports NFC South reporter, covering the Buccaneers, Falcons, Panthers and Saints. And since 2004, there has been (parallel to the 1959SLP from the New Vintage series) yet another edition. Plus being that old, it just seemed kind of fragile to me, like something could go at any moment, 59SLP freaking rip!! I do agree that using an attenuator might just turn in to a hassle, and that Id be burning tubes on the 1959. Basically plexi circuits with some of the switchable voicings involving Jose like diode circuits. Does it offer that much more than a stock super lead on the dirt channel? Pittsburgh has struggled to score points consistently the league has had three games out of 28 this year in which a team has scored three points or less, and the Maulers have two of them, getting shut out by Memphis and managing only three in a loss to New Jersey. Foster has been limited by an arm injury but should be full-go for Saturday's game. How did people deal with 1959 marshall amps or 1987x before atteaunators were available. Kirk Hammett: Maybe the age of active pickups is over. Oh and you can slam it with a pedal till you get used to playing it Scotty. Somewhere with a Friedman Marshall & Les Paul. 2203/4 less so, but also much loved. Perhaps this is the most common question we receive here when people first inquire about the Hot Mod V2, Lynch Mod, and Mr. I have owned a few 1959's, and still have a HW one, and they are great at what they do, but it would never be my main gigging amp in todays world. Since both are great amps, then you have to look at other factors. Other than pickups it's all stock. Apples vs Oranges. It's a toss up on which to get first, I got my Express first just because it was the first one I came across for a great price. Jet City Amps: JCA5212 standard wire V4 position. The shipping costs are calculated on the checkout page. I have a 68 Superbass with a ppimv installed. So the investment part is null and void even though that is still a good reason. http://s761.photobucket.com/user/AlanH_album/Ibanez RG1570 Suede Red/story, New Marshall Half Stack: 1959HW & 1960AHW. Use of this website (including any and all parts and components) constitutes your acceptance of these. On Saturday ( Noon ET ), Pittsburgh (2-5) faces the Houston Gamblers (4-3), who lost to Memphis last weekend but are still tied for second in the South. I would think one would hear them both and have an almost immediate preference. Friedman is currently smoking Marshall. To me they sound like a smoother more refined marshall that dosent quite cut through as well in the mix. My preference is to crank the amp and use the Fryette. FInding clean ones are pretty tough these days. Outputs: 2 x 1/4" jack speaker outputs, selectable 16/ 8 / 4 load. The SS could run a lower volume. Then I turned the pedal off and all the great tone and feel went away.With pedal =AMAZING TONE AND FEEL w/o pedal = NOTHING SPECIAL that I couldnt get w my other marshalls.But in all honesty I didnt get to spend much time with it AND I couldnt turn it up. So basically what Im saying is dont look down your nose at us that do like / play hair metal just coz you dont . The effects loop is excellent, it has a great clean channelit's just an all around killer amp. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Maybe the friedman hysteria comes from the younger guys who didnt grow up with marshalls. All of the above? In this video, Jack takes an outstanding Marshall Handwired 1959 through its paces, much like the players mentioned above would have done. I mean, there are a lot of people who compare the two (some saying the Friedman is superior), but I haven't noticed any direct comparisons like this. We have a lot of choices, every amp sound different, and that's good, it's all about finding the sweet spot. I can't say, as I haven't played one. I could see the HW slowly going up many years from now anyways. The BE-100 has the best master volume I've heard on any amp, ever. Funnily enough, what youve said actually makes me feel really excited about possibly having a place for both! Sovtek Amps: The standard wire version of the mod is compatible with both the Mig 60 and Mig 100. Bill T likes this. What say you? It may not display this or other websites correctly. It all depends what youre into I guess . The correction, which Marshall did from the factory from around early 1979 and later, is to use shielded wire for that particular pin 7 and replace the non-shielded green wire. Freidman makes great amps, he never stops improving, for example the BE Deluxe sounds better than the BE, and the JEL apparently is better than any other Friedman, is not as dark as the other ones, and from the demo it sounds as raw and bright as a Marshall. Good info, thank you. I think the SS will sound dark coming off the 1959HW. why dont you mod the marshall with the JEL mod, its a fantastic mod and you can do everything from acdc to slash to van halen and so forth. I tried all that stuff of course (not the hairspray) spent way too much money on it. Thats kind of like comparing a Swiss Army Knife to a Machete. Clones: The Hot Mod V2 has been found to work well in a variety of Marshall 1959/1987/2203/2204 clone and similar circuits including: Ceriatone, Germino, Mojotone, Wangs. MKII was used for quite some time on all Marshall "Plexi" panels after the JTM45 prototype and initial production run in late-1965. I can score the 1959HW for around $1300-1400 and well I dont sell amps at this time due to being lucky and free of bills. More premium/upscale parts for JTM45+ build. After buying an Orange Rockerverb i wouldn't look twice at a FriedmanLol. Some of that is due to a league-low four touchdown passes (every other team has at least seven) from quarterback Troy Williams. Scary Mod, it is likely because the amp doesnt use shielded wire on pin 7 of V1 like Marshall amps use on their 2203/2204 designs from 1979+. Dont't pay attention to the playing as much as the gain level, single note clarity, string to string definition etc to see if the foundation tone would work for your situation. volume isn't an issue, would you still purchase the SS100? Its expensive though. All three of these amps have their own characteristics, however you would be forgiven in thinking they might only suit just one style of playing. On Saturday (Noon ET), Pittsburgh (2-5) faces the Houston Gamblers (4-3), who lost to Memphis last weekend but are still tied for second in the South. Once you do, we're sure you'll be grinning from ear to ear after the first power chord rings out. I've admittedly never had much of an interest in Friedman amps, as most of the clips I've heard sound like a modern interpretation of a Marshall but this comparison actually sounds pretty good to me. I prefer my Marshalls to everything Ive ever played or heard, especially my vintage ones with one exception. Customers, 2 Mike's (ratter) 1959HW was flat out AWESOME for classic Marshall crunch. There is no doubt about that. From whisper quiet to roaring stage volumes, it sounds fantastic all of the way through the sweep. Im in the market for a new plexi style amp but am on the fence about if I want a clone of a 68 12000 series or someones take on a plexi.If I go with some builders version of a plexi then Ill never know what a true plexi is like ,and yes I know theyre loud but I would get a 50w w ppimv. Payment can be made safely and securely with PayPal, Amazon Pay, Credit Card or Bank Transfer. I sure would like to see a 20 watt version of the SS. volume isn't an issue, would you still purchase the SS100? I believe steve still plays with deep purple, and his tech told me he uses a signature engl amp. From what I've read, the SS100 is much more vintage sounding than any other Friedman offering except the DS and TS models, which I generally like, but I'm a bit worried that the SS100 offers much less variability on the modded Plexi tones than the BE100. The difference has been a 9-3 record for South teams against the North, and the league plays its fourth and final round of non-division games this weekend, with a chance to further the gap between the two. Marshall Studio*: This new series of mini 20 watt heads require the removal of the L bracket and thumbscrew so that the units can fit into the PCB-mounted socket in the amp which does not use a base tube shield. Some of the add-ons on this site are powered by. We will waste no more words on the sound qualities of this amp - that would be superfluous. after owning both, I am in the Marshall camp. There are too many very good alternatives these days. Im not saying you should get a 1959 just to get it out of the way. Also standard wire version will work in JCA22H in V3 and JCA50H in V4. The final is . The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. But I didn't like any of it. IMPORTANT NOTE: Friedman amps are NOT COMPATIBLE with earlier pre-EVO Hot Mod V2 units. The clips sound good on YouTube. JavaScript is disabled. I remember how popular those Metro Marshall clones were. We also pulled out two amps which stack up very well against the Marshall; the Suhr SL68 and the Friedman BE-100 Deluxe. I tend reward who brought the original concept, and not those who copy even the letter's font. Here is some doodling at very low volume on my handwired 2203 with the JEL mod I did to it a few weeks ago. I know I went thru about 25 or so to find twojust because someone is asking a high price and says its a great sounding amp doesnt mean it really is.maybe it is for them, but not what you are looking for. Range: Handwired. In general, although there are non-master and master volume amps listed here, note that all of our mod devices generally work better if your amp has a master volume on it. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Free Shipping. If you're looking for a modded Marshall and don't have the bucks to spend on a proper early 80s Arredondo or Jackson modded amp from LA, a Friedman is certainly one of the most reasonable options to look at. (Gibson QC issues). Can a DSL 100H get close to a Friedman BE100? It definitely had an in-your-face midrange that couldn't be dialed out without pedals. With our cookies we would like to offer you the best shopping experience possible with everything that goes with it. Friedman have taken Marshall DNA and done great things. If youre dying to play a 100w Marshall, youll always wonder until you try one. Marshalldog do you know how close the sb 50 is to a plexi circuit? Mr. It had great tone but I knew if I tweaked the circuit at all (like trying a couple of Clay Finleys simple mods) or blew a tranny the value would drop precipitously. The vibe is very different. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I prefer every amp I have to all of theirs but thats just what I like. Model: 1959HW. I could even insert a pen in to it. Scary Mod. Good side is it still working properly, and i am tired with exchange procedure, so i will keep it and try to fix all these issues by myself. Email [emailprotected] if interested in using one of our mods with these particular vintage Peavey amps. Whether it's alongside Jimi Hendrix or many other guitar heroes, this amp was and is constantly found as a companion - the "1959" is arguably the Marshall amp with the most eventful history, with the most reissues and special series, that has ever existed in the history of the Brits. This item runs exclusively on an operating voltage of 230 and therefore requires a voltage transformer to run in your country of United States. Customers. Other Amps: The Hot Mod V2 is designed to work with amps which use a cathode follower design into the tone stack. 1959hw is a one trick pony second to none for that one trick. The slap in the face for marshall : HDRX 20. He had it loud in the auditorium and it wasn't harsh. I've not used the Smallbox, but I had a '71 1959 and a Power Station and just opted for a 2204 instead. and yes they are Marshall like . Well updated the list as soon as we learn about additional models. However, the OR50 we have found is compatible. Been thinking hard and right now I cant justify 2K for a clean original SL, came this close to unloading 2K for a real good one but my guts were in knots over the amount. I resemble that remark--nothing 'bites' like a Marshall IMO. smallbox 50 , brown eye are jose type mods. They're great, and have a certain sound - they are not Marshall clones. Note: This feature currently requires accessing the site using the built-in Safari browser. I prefer the original NMV JTM and lead/bass circuits- that is THE sound for me- the original Marshall sounds. No hiss, no hum. Dave Friedman really knows his stuff. Similar yes but differant. Added side benefit: it actually sounds fantastic. The best compromise, since I liked both sounds, is the Mesa rectoverb 25. Ever do a comparison like this yourself to see how they stack up? Damn JVM410h.only went and did it again! Well said coronado, that summed up how I feel exactly .That is why I have a few marshalls (the difference or character that shines through) between them . The 1959HW is a line right back to the celebrated era of the mid to late 1960s, the original was born when Pete Townshend asked Jim Marshall if he could make it louder. The one side of chassis is not properly bend. I find amps are darker on YouTube and have more cut in person. The key is, the tone isn't really that. As far as new production Marshall circuits go give me a Germino/Park/Wallace. Certain frequencies disappear and what is left above the surface has to be really good. FIFA World Cup - Best Goals from Every Angle, Draw for the FIFA Women's World Cup Australia & New Zealand 2023, FIFA Women's World Cup - Best Goals from Every Angle, Follow your favorites to personalize your FOX Sports experience, Get more from United States Football League, Follow your favorites to get information about games, news and more, FOX SPORTS, SPEED, SPEED.COM & 2023 Fox Media LLC and Fox Sports Interactive Media, LLC. Doesn't help you with your dilemma, but what I did to scratch both itches was to get a Express 5 50 and a Avatar 45. The tone of the SM 50 is stellar for a Marshall classic tone hands down, has great gain if needed, its easy to dial in and cleans up great with the guitar volume and tone and it is NOT darker at all it has plenty of cut.

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